bung harris, bacaan ini pernah diposting carla.
saya ingin dengar komentar anda.
mereka adalah tokoh-tokoh liberal islam yang dimasanya
dikuyo-kuyo kaum agama seperti anda. tokoh-tokoh ilmuwan
ini disebut sebagai "kaum yang meninggalkan agama."
aneh di zaman sekarang, anda mengklaim mereka
sebagai leluhur anda. ironis.
1. al- farabi, ibn sina, al-kindi ( these three philosophers combined
aristotelianism and neoplatonism with other ideas introduced to Islam) but
sadly in their era, their teaching according to islam was heretic and they
re considered as non-islamic philosophers.
abt ibn sina: excelled in medicine but his contribution to science and
philosophy is also greatly remembered. Muslims proudly call him the doctor
of doctors and enjoy virtual pleasure, alleging him as a golden age of
golden Islam. Despite taking the credit, Muslim countries never benefited
from his works, however many hospitals, clinics, pharmacies and hotels of
Islamic countries are named after him. Ironically, European universities
added Ibn Sinas medical and philosophical works to their curriculum but
they remained unknown to the witch factories aka madrassas of the Muslim
However, his freethinking mind did not accept the absurdities of Islam. He
opined in his autobiography under the chapter of THE AFTER LIFE.
after life is a notion received from religious teaching; there is no way of
establishing its truth save by way of religious dogma and acceptance of
the prophets report as true; there refers to what will befall the body at
the resurrection and those corporal delights or torments which are too
well-known to require restating here.
Even during his lifetime ibn sina (Avicenna) was suspected of infidelity to
Islam; after his death accusations of heresy, free thought and atheism were
repeatedly leveled against him.
2. al razi ( abu bakr mohammed ibn zakariya ar- razi)
another great physician wrote more than 200 books of
one half of them are about medicine and rest in physics, mathematics and
astronomy. Like Ibn Sina, Ar-Razis works had set milestones in medical
science. The most controversial book On Prophecy has not survived for an
obvious reason. Most likely embarrassed Muslims could not swallow the
contents that humiliated the prophet of Islam. Somehow, a part of his
second book slipped through the hand of ignorant. Ar-Razi quipped -"These
billy goats (Prophets) pretend to come with a message from God, all the
while exhausting themselves in spouting their lies, and imposing on the
masses blind obedience to the "words of the master."
3. abu 'l-ala ahmad b. abdallah al-ma'arri
al ma'arri was also known as the eastern lucretius was famous for poetry
and grammar, He was born in Syria but traveled many places until he became
blind. He lived in Baghdad for only eighteen months but within this short
time he made a name for himself as a poet. After returning from Baghdad ,
he lived in his hometown Marra for another fifty years. Because of his
fame, students from distant places went to Al-Marri to learn from him. Like
Ibn Sina, al-Marri did not believe in resurrection and strongly condemned
religious beliefs. One of his poems says it all
"Hanifs (Muslims) are stumbling, Christians all astray
Jews wildered, Magians far on error's way.
We mortals are composed of two great schools:
Enlightened knaves else religious fools...'
4. astronomer and and philosopher muslim born Omar khayam.
Omar khayam was best known for his rubaiyats or poems but he was
outstanding mathematican and astronomers, He also wrote a book of music, an
un-Islamic act that may throw him in a burning hell. His calculation of
365.24219858156 days making a year is so close to accurate that modern
scientists respectfully remember his name. Omar Khayyam also found a
geometric solution of cubic equations.
Islam strictly prohibits Martini and bikini. According to Quran, Muslim
women are not allowed to reveal their beauty and drinking wine gives you a
one-way ticket to hell. But Omar Khayyam was an admirer of beauty and wine.
Drinking wine is my travail
Till my body is dead and stale
At my grave site all shall hail
Odor of wine shall prevail.
Another piece of gem
Heaven is incomplete without a heavenly romance
Let a glass of wine be my present circumstance
Take what is here now, let go of a promised chance
A drumbeat is best heard from a distance.
Sadly, Muslim intellectuals do not understand that those golden age of
Islam did not care for the Quran neither they discovered anything out of
that book. Even though they had the chance of discovering from relatively
fresh Quran but they followed the trend of Pythagoras, Aristotle (384-322
BC), Euclid (325-265 BC), Archimedes (287-212 BC), Ptolemy (85-165 AD).
Jabir Ibn Haiyan, born unknown and died in 803, probably saw the earliest
Quran, served hot from the oven. Interestingly he called Socrates 'the
father and mother of all philosophers' and considered him as the prototype
of the real chemist instead of finding any chemical formula from the Quran.
Pythagoras has often been mentioned in various works of those scholars but
failed to discover the speed, velocity or acceleration of Mohammads
unicorn, the mythical horse called Buraque. Bernard Lewis has rightly
concluded in his book What Went Wrong?- The Islamic Empire inherited "the
knowledge and skills of the ancient Middle east, of Greece and of Persia,
it added to them new and important innovations from outside, such as the
manufacture of paper from China and decimal positional numbering from India.
Liberal Abbasid Caliphates such as Harun-al-Rashid and Mamun sponsored
those great scholars of the middle age. They were tolerant enough to allow
Aristotelian logic, adopted as a framework upon which to build science and
philosophy but contrary to Quranic teachings. Eventually, some Muslims
understood the threat of real knowledge and how this movement was
undermining Islam. At the end of 10th century, famous theologian and a
perfect Muslim al-Ghazali brought back the origin of Islam, the real Islam
that was practiced by the founder of the religion. In his book, The
destruction of philosophy al-Ghazali challenged the process of reasoning
because it cannot prove the reality of Allah. Philosophical thoughts and
scientific investigations were pushed aside and by the time of his death in
1111, the glorious days of medieval age became a story of the past.
Actually these great scholars flourished not because of Islam but they
thrived because they abandoned Islam. When Muslim intellectuals desperately
try to brand those great people with Islamic marker, it becomes obvious
that they are suffering from inferiority complex and abusing those scholars
in the name of Islam.
Is it not ironic that those incredible achievements were made by all
basically apostates in Islam.
At 11:31 AM 11/28/2007 +0700, you wrote:
>apa pak nugroho stuju dg ajaran2 islamliberal? bedanya apa seh dg islam?
>Sent by: <mailto:ppiindia%40yahoogroups.com>firstname.lastname@example.org
>11/28/2007 11:29 AM
>Please respond to
>Re: [ppiindia] Fwd: Undangan Diskusi JIL tentang Kebebasan dan
>judulnya: undangan diskusi JIL. mungkin anda harus belajar
>perbedaan sebuah acara dan sebuah lembaga.
>At 12:32 PM 11/27/2007 +0700, you wrote:
> >assalamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu-lLahi wa barakatuH,
> >karena anda msh 'muslim' maka saya beri salam.
> >langsung aja to the point ga usah muter2 ke syiah, wahabi dll.
> >judulnya itu ttg JIL alias islamliberal.
> >apa pak nugroho stuju dg ajaran2 islamliberal? bedanya apa seh dg islam?
> >tolong pencerahannya pak nugroho..
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